Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120

03/12/2024 03:00 PM House STATE AFFAIRS

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SB 12 ADDRESS CONFIDENTIALITY PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS CSSB 12(STA) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= HJR 18 SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFIT REDUCTION REPEAL TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 18(STA) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 95 LIC. PLATES: SPECIALTY ORGS/PEACE OFFICER TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS CSSB 95(STA) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ HB 190 ALASKA SUNSET COMMISSION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 103 PEER SUPPORT COUNSELING PROGRAM TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS SB 103(STA) Out of Committee
             SB  12-ADDRESS CONFIDENTIALITY PROGRAM                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:11:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW announced that the next  order of business would be CS                                                               
FOR SENATE  BILL NO. 12(JUD), "An  Act relating to the  duties of                                                               
the   Department   of   Administration;   creating   an   address                                                               
confidentiality program; and providing for an effective date."                                                                  
[Before the committee,  adopted as a working  document on 3/7/24,                                                               
was  the  proposed  House committee  substitute  (HCS)  for  CSSB
12(JUD), Version 33-LS0162\H, C. Radford, 3/6/24 ("Version H").]                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:11:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW moved  to adopt Amendment 1 to Version  H, labeled 33-                                                               
LS0162\D.1, C. Radford, 3/8/24, which read as follows:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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        "* Section 1. AS 18.65.087(b) is amended to read:                                                                 
          (b)  Information about a sex offender or child                                                                        
      kidnapper that is contained in the central registry,                                                                      
      including sets of fingerprints, is confidential and                                                                       
     not subject to  public disclosure except as  to the sex                                                                    
     offender's   or   child  kidnapper's   name,   aliases,                                                                    
     address, photograph,  physical description, description                                                                    
     of motor  vehicles, license numbers of  motor vehicles,                                                                    
     and vehicle  identification numbers of  motor vehicles,                                                                    
     place  of employment,  date of  birth, crime  for which                                                                    
     convicted,  date  of  conviction, place  and  court  of                                                                    
     conviction, length  and conditions  of sentence,  and a                                                                    
     statement as  to whether the  offender or  kidnapper is                                                                    
     in compliance  with requirements of AS 12.63  or cannot                                                                    
     be  located.  A  sex offender's  or  child  kidnapper's                                                                
     address  is  confidential  and not  subject  to  public                                                                
     disclosure if  the sex offender  or child  kidnapper is                                                                
     enrolled in  the address confidentiality  program under                                                                
     AS 44.21.022."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "Section 1"                                                                                                  
          Insert "Sec. 2"                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "not required to register as a sex                                                                             
     offender or child kidnapper under AS 12.63 or a                                                                            
     similar law of another jurisdiction and is"                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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          Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                      
          "(d)  An individual who has a duty to register                                                                        
     under AS 12.63.010 may petition  the court for an order                                                                    
     that the  individual is eligible  to enroll,  or remain                                                                    
     enrolled, in the  program. A copy of  the petition must                                                                    
     be served  on the Department  of Public Safety.  If the                                                                    
     Department of  Public Safety does  not file  a response                                                                    
     within  45  days after  service  of  the petition,  the                                                                    
     court   may   grant   the  petition   without   further                                                                    
     proceedings,  subject to  the  requirements  of (c)  of                                                                    
     this  section. The  court may  issue  an order  finding                                                                    
     that an  individual who  has a  duty to  register under                                                                    
     AS 12.63.010   is  eligible   to   enroll,  or   remain                                                                    
     enrolled,  in the  program  if it  finds  by clear  and                                                                    
     convincing  evidence   that  the   individual's  safety                                                                    
     interest   in   keeping    the   individual's   address                                                                    
     confidential  outweighs the  public safety  interest in                                                                    
     making the  individual's address public as  provided in                                                                    
     AS 12.63.010 and AS 18.65.087."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Reletter the following subsections accordingly.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete all material and insert:                                                                                       
          "The department shall remove an individual                                                                            
     enrolled  in the  program if,  during the  time of  the                                                                    
     individual's enrollment in  the program, the individual                                                                    
     is  required to  register  under  AS 12.63.010 and  the                                                                    
     individual does  not obtain a  court order  as required                                                                    
     under (d) of this section."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "sec. 2"                                                                                                       
          Insert "sec. 3"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "Section 3"                                                                                                    
          Insert "Section 4"                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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          Delete "sec. 4"                                                                                                       
          Insert "sec. 5"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WRIGHT objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SHAW  made note  that  while  he  is  the sponsor  of  the                                                               
amendment,  policy discussion  will  help him  decide whether  to                                                               
support his amendment or not.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:12:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BUDDY  WHITT, Staff,  Representative  Laddie  Shaw, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  provided  an  explanation  for  Amendment  1.    He                                                               
provided a hypothetical story to  explain Amendment 1, in which a                                                               
person  registered as  a sex  offender  is experiencing  domestic                                                               
abuse  and may  need address  confidentiality for  their personal                                                               
safety.   The amendment  establishes a method  by which  a person                                                               
who is on the sex offender list  may be able to enter the address                                                               
confidentiality program by  petitioning the court.   If the court                                                               
takes no action  or finds there is clear  and convincing evidence                                                               
that  the  individual's  safety  interest  outweighs  the  public                                                               
safety interest,  that individual  may be  granted access  to the                                                               
address confidentiality program.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:17:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY asked to hear  from the Department of Public                                                               
Safety.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:18:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:18 p.m. to 3:19 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:19:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARAH  STANLEY,   Assistant  Attorney  General,   Legal  Services                                                               
Section,  Criminal   Division,  Department  of   Law,  introduced                                                               
herself for the record.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:20:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:20:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY asked  about Amendment 1 and  whether it was                                                               
brought forth by the Department of Public Safety.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:20:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  STANLEY  explained that  she  is  prepared to  answer  legal                                                               
questions  about what  the  amendment does  but  said she  cannot                                                               
provide opinion on policy decisions.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:21:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK asked the  bill sponsor to explain whether                                                               
the amendment is intended to be "friendly."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:21:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL,  Alaska State Legislature,  offered his  thanks to                                                               
the  committee   discussing  this   policy.    He   provided  his                                                               
perspective of  Amendment 1  to CSSB  12(JUD).   He said  that it                                                               
would be  considered a  "friendly" amendment.   He said  the idea                                                               
for  the amendment  was inspired  through his  time spent  on the                                                               
Governor's Council on  Human and Sex trafficking.   The amendment                                                               
seeks to  protect those in  rare situations of escape  from rough                                                               
situations  who need  protection.   He explained  the process  of                                                               
court  petitioning.   He  noted  that  the Department  of  Public                                                               
Safety  would still  have access  to their  physical address,  as                                                               
well as the Department of Corrections and law enforcement.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:24:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER  asked   about  "clear  and  convincing                                                               
evidence".                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:25:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NANCY  MEADE, General  Counsel, Administrative  Staff, Office  of                                                               
the Administrative Director, Alaska  Court System, explained that                                                               
"clear  and  convincing  evidence"  is  a  standard  that  courts                                                               
regularly use.  She further  explained that "preponderance of the                                                               
evidence"  could   indicate  51  percent  certainty,   "beyond  a                                                               
reasonable doubt"  would be over  90 percent certain,  "clear and                                                               
convincing evidence" would be somewhere  in between 51-90 percent                                                               
certainty,  though it  is not  typically  defined in  exactitude.                                                               
The  court  would  need  to  consider  whether  there  is  enough                                                               
evidence to support that a person  is at risk and poses less risk                                                               
to  the   community  to  be   considered  eligible   for  address                                                               
confidentiality protection.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:28:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER asked about  what kind of evidence would                                                               
elevate  the  victim/offender's  status  enough  to  grant  their                                                               
address confidentiality.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:29:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL  emphasized  that  the  language  of  Amendment  1                                                               
specifies risk to life or  physical safety, not privacy interests                                                               
or desires.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER  commented that  any sex  offender could                                                               
make  the argument  that they  are in  a dangerous  situation and                                                               
seek  qualification under  the  address confidentiality  program.                                                               
He stated  his feeling that  the amendment may create  a loophole                                                               
for sex offenders.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:31:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARRICK asked  how many  sex trafficking  victims                                                               
are also prosecuted as a sex offender or child kidnapper.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL said  the council is working on  a clear definition                                                               
of "trafficking victim."   He stated that he  lacks specific data                                                               
but  estimated that  the number  of  people who  may utilize  the                                                               
provisions under Amendment 1 is low.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARRICK said  someone's safety  would have  to be                                                               
impacted with clear and convincing  evidence indicating that they                                                               
qualify for address confidentiality.   She asked if the amendment                                                               
is centric to people who have also been victimized.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEAD answered that the  amendment is applicable only to those                                                               
required to  be on  the sex  offender registry.   She  noted that                                                               
this situation would likely be  somewhat rare, and she added that                                                               
it would  be quite difficult  for the  court to decide  given the                                                               
compelling  interested   in  protecting   the  public   from  sex                                                               
offenders.   She emphasized that proceedings  in these situations                                                               
would not be routine or taken lightly.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   CARRICK  commented   that   even  though   these                                                               
situations are unlikely, it would  be good to have protections in                                                               
place.  She remarked that there  are likely some gray areas.  She                                                               
offered her support of Amendment 1.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:36:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ALLARD   asked  how   many  sex   offenders  have                                                               
protective orders against other individuals.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEAD  responded that the  court does not maintain  that data.                                                               
When  a  court  issues  a   protective  order,  there  is  not  a                                                               
discussion of a victim's past criminal history.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ALLARD  asked  about  the  likelihood  of  a  sex                                                               
offender recommitting.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEAD responded that there  is mixed information, and she does                                                               
not have enough information to guess.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ALLARD commented  that  she's  not interested  in                                                               
protecting  sex  offenders.   She  said,  "They deserve  whatever                                                               
they're getting."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.   MEAD  clarified   that   [the   proposed  House   committee                                                               
substitute,  Version   H]  states   that  sex   offenders  cannot                                                               
participate in the address confidentiality  program.  Amendment 1                                                               
provides an opportunity for a sex  offender to go to the court to                                                               
make their case for address confidentiality eligibility.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:39:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  C.  JOHNSON  expressed   his  concern  about  the                                                               
proposed amendment.  He moved to table Amendment 1.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK objected.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
A roll call  vote was taken.   Representatives Wright, Carpenter,                                                               
C. Johnson, Allard, and Shaw  voted in favor of tabling Amendment                                                               
1 to  the proposed HCS,  Version H.  Representatives  Carrick and                                                               
Story voted against  it.  Therefore, Amendment 1 was  tabled by a                                                               
vote of 5-2.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:42:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:42 p.m. to 3:43 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:43:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SHAW opened public testimony on SB 12.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:43:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUZI PEARSON,  Executive Director, Abused Women's  Aid in Crisis,                                                               
testified in support  of SB 12 with the tabled  Amendment.  SB 12                                                               
will protect victims  of domestic violence and  stalking, who are                                                               
at the  highest risk  of lethality.   This bill  protects victims                                                               
and employees of Abused Women's Aid in Crisis.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:45:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAUREE  MORTEN,  Deputy  Director,  Alaska  Network  on  Domestic                                                               
Violence and Sexual Assault, testified in  support of SB 12.  She                                                               
remarked that  Alaska is one  of the few  states that has  yet to                                                               
establish an  address confidentiality program.   Similar programs                                                               
in  other states  are  effective and  help to  save  lives.   She                                                               
explained that  one of  the most dangerous  times for  victims is                                                               
when they  attempt to  leave.   Address confidentiality  helps to                                                               
keep victims  and their children safe  during extremely sensitive                                                               
and dangerous  times where secrecy  is critical.  She  noted that                                                               
there are times  when protective orders place the  victim at even                                                               
greater risk.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:47:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SHAW,  after  ascertaining  that no  one  else  wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony on SB 12.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:47:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL thanked  the committee  for consideration  of CSSB
12(JUD) and provided closing remarks.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:48:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WRIGHT  moved to report  HCS CSSB 12,  Version 33-                                                               
LS0162\H,  C. Radford,  3/6/24 out  of committee  with individual                                                               
recommendations  and  the  accompanying   fiscal  notes,  and  to                                                               
authorize  Legislative  Legal  Services  to  make  any  necessary                                                               
technical or conforming  changes.  There being  no objection, HSC                                                               
CSSB  12(STA)  was  reported  out  of  the  House  State  Affairs                                                               
Standing Committee.                                                                                                             

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 12 Amendment 1 HSTA.pdf HSTA 3/12/2024 3:00:00 PM
SB 12
CS HJR 18 HSTA.pdf HSTA 3/12/2024 3:00:00 PM
HJR 18
CS for HB 190 Summary of Changes.pdf HSTA 3/12/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 190
HB 190 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 3/12/2024 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/9/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 190
HB 190 House State Affairs Bill Hearing Request.pdf HSTA 3/12/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB0190B.pdf HSTA 3/12/2024 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/2/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 190
List of Divisions and Corporations Under Each Department (for presentation).pdf HSTA 3/12/2024 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/2/2024 3:00:00 PM
CSHB 190 Sectional Analysis Version B.pdf HSTA 3/12/2024 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 190
HB190 Alaska Sunset Commission Presentation 3.12.2024.pdf HSTA 3/12/2024 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/2/2024 3:00:00 PM
HSTA 4/16/2024 3:00:00 PM
HB 190